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Post by mwynn on Apr 3, 2022 14:06:59 GMT -6
First can you explain what you mean by "woke". That word has been twisted and tainted over the years.
Second, that is how all businesses function. Whenever there is a movement each of them try to find some way to make money off of it.
In February there are black books and movies advertised. In March there are women books and movies advertised. Those things do not do anything but make money.
Activism is not commercial, like a certain group became in 2020 and then were torn apart with scandal. Anything that revolves around money will be tainted by greed.
The entire country is on China's and Saudi Arabia's dick, and will ignore the crimes they commit. As long as the money keeps flowing.
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Post by jaytl on Apr 3, 2022 15:50:01 GMT -6
I guess Disney is woke because it has a ton of minority representation?
But then they have one black princess? And same sex kiss scenes get taken out of movies still.
Disney is trying to appease both sides. Always has been. Is it scummy? Only as scummy as literally any other media company doing the same thing.
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Post by CyberpunkCentral on Apr 3, 2022 16:31:31 GMT -6
My definition of "wokeness" is, "fake morality". It has nothing to do with more representation on minorities. In fact, I welcome people of color getting more jobs. My issue is, these companies aren't doing it out of the "kindness" of their own hearts. Which is fine, it's business after all. Just don't throw around the ""moral card at us, when the reality is they don't care.
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Post by mwynn on Apr 4, 2022 6:02:25 GMT -6
Okay so just use Fake Morality it enforce the point more. What you are seeing is overcompensation, instead of just admitting they were and still doing things that are wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2022 7:13:27 GMT -6
Companies are made up of people, but are not entities with morality or a conscience. Individual board members and shareholders have political and social opinions, and a sense of morality, but the companies specifically are by design cold to those things. They're like mindless organisms, a xenomorphs of sorts, that are pro money and indifferent to everything else. They've evolved to be that way.
It would be nice if inclusion of everyone just happened all on its own without any effort, but it just doesn't. It's up to the people in charge to have the company make decisions counterintuitive to xenomorph style greed. Motives for this can be all over the place, because the people guiding the company all have their own unique sets of opinions and aspirations. Some may consider it socially responsible. Some do it to appease current public opinion. Others may see it as a potential revenue stream. It's not perfect, it's flawed because people are flawed, but we are learning.
Personally, I think inclusion is important because it's inspiring for people to see someone like themselves on screen. When I look around in real life, I see lots of variety, so seeing it on screen doesn't feel forced to me, it seems natural. Also, I think the more we see people on screen who are different from us, but who have the same challenges as us, people will start to understand we are more alike than we are different. We could all work on our empathy. Inclusion benefits us all.
So yes it takes effort, but it's worth the effort, so I wouldn't villainize that effort.
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Post by mwynn on Apr 4, 2022 7:19:39 GMT -6
Oh yeah it is worth the effort. The problems start with how things are being reported. We still have way to many people who are unaccepting of others. Empathy is something that has been lost and needs to be found again. We have all known pain, we have all felt happiness. We need to embrace what is the same, and not what is different.
The problem is as I said before is some group is always the current target.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2022 7:30:20 GMT -6
I'm not a democrat or a republican. In my opinion, they've both been bought and paid for by campaign contributions. They do not represent us anymore. They represent the companies who keep them in power, so they make laws that benefit those companies. Our wellbeing is way down on their list of priorities.
I'm more liberal than conservative, because I'm for people being whoever they want to be as long as they're not hurting anyone else.
I vote, but in all my years I've always felt like I was voting for the lesser of two evils. Never have I been inspired by a politician because I thought they were a great leader. That is sad.
Politicians like DeSantis don't actually govern. They're just in endless campaigns to stay in office. Their decisions are publicity stunts.
"The very concept of objective truth is fading out of the world. Lies will pass into history." - George Orwell
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Post by mwynn on Apr 4, 2022 7:59:13 GMT -6
Exactly, it is the old Flea Circus. Keep people distracted then tell them, others are the enemy. While they prop up companies, with billions of dollars then say there is nothing for the people. I think there are a few people on both sides that want to actually help, yet they cannot cross the lines. The two party system is a failure, anyone who runs should be a valid candidate.
Go to 53 minutes, ever heard of ALEC?
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Post by CyberpunkCentral on Apr 7, 2022 4:42:26 GMT -6
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Post by mwynn on Apr 7, 2022 6:21:03 GMT -6
The US is a funny place. These are the same people that would complain about others protesting, saying do they have jobs.
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Post by CyberpunkCentral on Apr 7, 2022 6:33:05 GMT -6
That's what Disney gets for bringing in politics into entertainment. Now there is no winning situation. Whatever they do or don't do, they are going to piss off a whole group of people either way.
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Post by mwynn on Apr 7, 2022 6:37:46 GMT -6
It is a show, they are not going to boycott anything.
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Post by jaytl on Apr 7, 2022 10:55:29 GMT -6
It's just like the truckers protesting for the end of COVID restrictions....that started their protest after we ended the restrictions.
That protest is a nothing burger. There was a legit Nazi demonstration 2 miles away and no one batted an eye.
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Post by CyberpunkCentral on Apr 7, 2022 14:26:53 GMT -6
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Post by jaytl on Apr 7, 2022 14:49:17 GMT -6
Sounds like it's for official business travel only. Why would a county employee need to fly across the country for business? It's just empty posturing
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Post by CyberpunkCentral on Apr 7, 2022 14:54:13 GMT -6
This shit is getting ugly. I don't know know if I want to post what Cole Sprouse said today.
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Post by jaytl on Apr 24, 2022 13:07:11 GMT -6
So because Disney put out a statement that they oppose the bill (after catching a ton of shit because they didn't release a statement), the government came down hard on them. If it actually takes effect (I have my doubts), it can have a ton of financial implications to the surrounding area.
The ironic thing is it absolves Disney of some financial obligations too.
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Post by CyberpunkCentral on Apr 24, 2022 13:53:51 GMT -6
What is the political bullshit that Disney is trying to pull? -__-
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Post by kylor on Apr 24, 2022 14:16:51 GMT -6
What's wrong with the word Gay anyway? There are much worse words out there.
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Post by jaytl on Apr 24, 2022 14:52:55 GMT -6
What is the political bullshit that Disney is trying to pull? -__- Disney hasn't said a word in weeks. Like I said in my last post, it kinda gives Disney an out to save a bunch of money, so they might just go along with it
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